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Is Makeup A Business Expense Photography

Tuco1 • Forum Member • Posts: 50

Stock Photography and taxes

I submitted a few photos to a couple of stock photography sites (Photolia and Istockphoto). The model in the photos is my wife. Ane of them has been purchased past an system and it now brings a question to mind. If I continue to add to my portfolio when would I be able to call it a business organisation and start taking deductions for expenses? I did a footling inquiry and empathize that yous should have a business name, website and/or other proof of a business organization. But at this signal can I write off my wife'due south makeup, etc. that was incurred in the photo shoot? Can you merely deduct expenses that first income from the photos (which is none at this time?)

Whatever input will be greatly appreciated.

Drew

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Tuco1 wrote:

I submitted a few photos to a couple of stock photography sites
(Photolia and Istockphoto). The model in the photos is my married woman. One
of them has been purchased past an organization and information technology now brings a
question to mind. If I proceed to add to my portfolio when would I
be able to call it a business and outset taking deductions for
expenses? I did a little research and understand that you should
have a concern name, website and/or other proof of a business. But
at this indicate can I write off my married woman's makeup, etc. that was
incurred in the photo shoot? Tin can you just deduct expenses that
get-go income from the photos (which is none at this time?)

Inquire your accountant.

Any input will exist profoundly appreciated.

Drew

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Seriously, yous are in over your caput from a business point of view and demand local professional person help from an accountant and peradventure an attorney. DO Not base business decision on what you read in a forum - you will get burned somewhen. I've seen bully advice hither and actually, really bad advice.

Basically, yous take sold a photo so the authorities will desire their share. I didn't check where you are, but if in the Us you volition need to complete a new ready of tax forms in addition to your normal 1040.

Exercise yourself a favor and talk to someone.

Just my opinion, of class!

Rich

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Sales revenue enhancement.

This brings upwards an interesting upshot in my head, even though I do not sell photos over the internet.

If I buy a camera from an online business which is located inside my state in the US, I will be charged a sales tax. If I purchase the same camera from another state, I will not exist charged this tax by the seller. The instance is clear and unproblematic since physical goods are being shipped from one location to another.

How does information technology work with online sales of downloadable photo files? Photograph files are non physical goods and not a service. Photograph files are more similar: information.

Is there sales tax on selling information? How is it determined where the origin of them is? Is information technology where the photographer is located or where they are downloaded from?

What if I am a photographer in NY, and the heir-apparent of my "information" sits in New York or New Bailiwick of jersey at his computer and downloads my file from a server in California? What if the buyer is in California where the server is located?

A bit tricky I think, unless there is no sales tax for photo files. Is there?

Tuco1 wrote:

I submitted a few photos to a couple of stock photography sites
(Photolia and Istockphoto). The model in the photos is my married woman. One
of them has been purchased past an organization and information technology now brings a
question to heed. If I go along to add to my portfolio when would I
be able to telephone call information technology a business and start taking deductions for
expenses? I did a little research and sympathize that yous should
have a business name, website and/or other proof of a business. But
at this point tin I write off my wife's makeup, etc. that was
incurred in the photo shoot? Tin you lot only deduct expenses that
offset income from the photos (which is none at this fourth dimension?)

Any input volition be greatly appreciated.

Drew

bw100 • Contributing Member • Posts: 970

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Tuco1 wrote:

I submitted a few photos to a couple of stock photography sites
(Photolia and Istockphoto). The model in the photos is my wife. One
of them has been purchased by an organization and it now brings a
question to mind. If I continue to add together to my portfolio when would I
be able to call information technology a business and offset taking deductions for
expenses? I did a piffling research and understand that you should
have a business proper noun, website and/or other proof of a business. But
at this point can I write off my married woman'south makeup, etc. that was
incurred in the photo shoot? Can yous only deduct expenses that
beginning income from the photos (which is none at this time?)

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Drew

If yous're receiving business income yous can deduct business organization expenses associated with producing and selling the photos, i.e. cameras, lens, website costs, etc. and yes, the makeup used on that detail pic. Withal in that location are lots of rules and limits about how those expenses get deducted, for example there is a depreciation calculation for cameras, some expenses get amortized, some expenses get a percent, etc. If you only received a few hundred dollars and did non receive a 1099 form don't worry. Only if you are getting, say, more than than $600 this year and so you should run into a local qualified tax professional person, preferably one that has photographers and/or pocket-sized businesses as other clients.

OP Tuco1 • Forum Fellow member • Posts: 50

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Thank you for the replies (except for the first one.) I don't plan on seeing an accountant unless I start selling in higher volume in sales. I actually haven;t seen any coin however. I was just curious if anyone else started their business organisation after selling a few on a stock site as a hobby. My married woman is the 1 that started this discussion, saying that since she is the model in the pics, I'd be able to write off her makeup used in the shoot. I told her fat chance, but she may not exist entirely incorrect. I guess I'd accept to declare this a business concern first.

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Actually, the outset response was the best equally it would give you lot (hopefully) expert advice specific to your circumstances.

All the others cautioned you against advice posted in a forum but you really seem to want to hear it.

A real business will consult an auditor or financial adviser even if to determine if they actually accept a business.

bill henry • Senior Member • Posts: 1,392

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Well if the revenue enhancement human cometh to and you go burned. remember what you wrote hither.

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

The IRS will.

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

I'm not an attorny nor a CPA but I just met with representatives for SC on this issue and here's what I Recollect they would say about taxes on stock sites.

Photography is considered a production, the time and service too equally the hard skilful associated with the image (CD, DVD, albums, prints etc). However, as of right now, digital media transfered through email and FTP is not considered a tangible and is therefore non required to accept sales taxation added to it in the retail sense.

Another consequence is you lot do not have to take sales revenue enhancement on anything sold outside of your business'south home state. Since micro sites are selling your images as a file to people more likely outside of your country, y'all should not have to deal with SALES TAX. However, income tax through the IRS is going to be collective if yous make more than than $600 a year off stock through a particular visitor.

As for deducting items used to produce your image, y'all should exist doing that anyways if y'all have a business organization. If you do not have a profit making business organisation in photography, the IRS will not allow you to deduct photo gear or materials demand to make your photos. Go a business first and foremost

And then at the stop of the 24-hour interval, I don't recollect you'll have to deal with local taxes at all with micro sites at the moment. Once digital images go tangible items in the eye of the state things could alter chop-chop but bank check with your state first.
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Michael Fryd

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

andrzej bialuski wrote:

Sales tax.

This brings up an interesting issue in my head, fifty-fifty though I practise not
sell photos over the internet.

If I buy a camera from an online business which is located within my
state in the Usa, I will exist charged a sales tax. If I buy the same
camera from some other state, I will non be charged this tax by the
seller. The instance is clear and elementary since physical goods are beingness
shipped from one location to another.

The case is not as uncomplicated as you like. For most US residents, you lot must pay sales tax on out of land purchases.

If the vendor has a 'presence' in your state, he is generally required to collect the sales tax for the state. If the vendor is out of state (for instance B&H in NY, and y'all are not in NY) then you are required to remit the sales tax yourself (generally this is called 'use tax').

Most consumers are unaware of this dominion, and even fewer consumers actually follow it. It's very difficult for the country to catch a consumer failing to pay sales taxation on an out of state purchase.

On the other hand, if you are a business organisation, and collect sales tax, you lot better pay utilise taxation on your out of state purchases. If you are selected for a random sales tax audit, they will also look to make sure you have paid appropriate use taxation for all your purchases.

How does information technology work with online sales of downloadable photo files?
Photo files are not concrete appurtenances and not a service. Photograph files
are more like: data.

It depends on the tax rules in your country. Some states apply sales revenue enhancement but to tangible items. Some states also apply sales revenue enhancement to intangibles (such as services).

Is there sales taxation on selling information? How is it determined
where the origin of them is? Is it where the photographer is located
or where they are downloaded from?

Typically, the sales tax rules of the delivery location employ. I suspect that for items delivered over the net, you would enquire the purchaser for their address (or employ their credit card billing address)

What if I am a lensman in NY, and the buyer of my "information"
sits in New York or New Jersey at his computer and downloads my file
from a server in California? What if the heir-apparent is in California
where the server is located?

A chip tricky I think, unless in that location is no sales tax for photograph files.
Is there?

Again, information technology varies from state to state. Your best bet is to consult a local accountant.

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bacma • Inferior Member • Posts: 31

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Patrick'south info makes complete sense. Thanks for sharing your sales tax info.

Remember that fifty-fifty accountants will provide different answers. In the terminate your decisions have to make sense to you.

I think the practical suggest is, if you are really going into a photograhic business organisation then treat it that mode and practice what you would if it were any business, i.e. take all the deductions 179, setup seperate accounts, rails expenses, get a Fed Revenue enhancement ID number, etc... If it is a hobby then don't expense like it'southward a business.

Michael Fryd

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

patrickhall wrote:

...

Another effect is you lot practise non take to accept sales tax on anything sold
outside of your business organisation's habitation country. Since micro sites are selling
your images as a file to people more likely outside of your
state, you should not take to deal with SALES TAX. Nonetheless, income
tax through the IRS is going to be collective if you lot make more than
$600 a year off stock through a detail company.

...

It is a mutual misconception that you are non required to pay income tax if you make less than $600 a year from a detail source.

Y'all are required to declare all income from all sources, no matter how small-scale the amount.

What'due south actually going on is that a business organisation is non required to written report their payments to you unless those payments total more than $600 in a yr. Most companies don't study any more than they demand to, and then the IRS isn't notified of those payments.

If you forget to declare this income on your return, it is unlikely that the IRS will e'er know nigh the omission (unless information technology turns upwardly in an audit of you or the company paying you).

Lesser line, y'all are supposed to declare income less than $600, but if you forget to, the IRS is unlikely to ever know.

Remember, never follow revenue enhancement advice from the web without first checking with your loal tax professional person to determine how the specifics of your situation apply.

Alarm: If you discuss breaking the law with your auditor (such as failing to declare some income) they tin can tell this to the IRS. Your accountant is probably not an attorney, and hence at that place is no chaser/customer privilege protecting your discussions. (this is why some people prefer to get their tax advice from an attorney.)

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Michael Fryd

Hobby vs. Business

At that place are a number of guidelines that the IRS uses to determine whether something is a hobby or a business.

In that location is no single determining factor, but as a general dominion you need to make coin in iii out of 5 years to be a business. (evidently there are exceptions, but without showing a profit you will need to work hard to justify why your coin losing activities are a business concern, and non a hobby).

it'southward possible that yous intended your stock photography to exist a concern venture. In which case your expenses would be deductible. Nevertheless, without any income, it would soon cease to be a legitimate business.

If the business action took identify in a previous tax twelvemonth, y'all would need to file an amended return and seek a refund.

The United states Tax lawmaking does let some express taxation deductions for hobby expenses, but the hobby deductions can't exceed your hobby income. The hobby deductions would become on your schedule A, and must exceed two% of your AGI earlier they kick in.

It is doubtful you will be able to get right and specific advice on the web. If at that place are noticeable amounts of money involved yous need to talk to a local revenue enhancement professional.

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OP Tuco1 • Forum Member • Posts: 50

Re: Stock Photography and taxes

Thanks Patrick, that's what I was looking for.

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